Topic: Are you an artist, and if so, how does it relate to your spirituality?

Tagged: creating art, music, quotes, the Self, writing

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February 12, 2012 at 1:53 pm #4662
thought capacitor	This is basically an expansion on Coleen’s topic “How to Handle being Richard Bach?”, which reminded me of a quote by Victor Wooten (famous bass guitarist and my all-time favorite musician, because he is “in the know”): “There is a place us musicians ‘go’ when we play. If we ‘think’ about it, that place usually disappears. ‘Where’ and ‘what’ is this place? This is where it gets really interesting.” I think that “place” exists for any and all artists (whether it be writers, musicians, dancers, etc.) when they create and are “in the zone”. Sometimes when I am playing my bass, the best musical ideas I come up with just kind of spill out of me, but only when I’m not concentrating on trying to write anything. Richard, you mentioned being detached from your readers’ reactions to your work because you feel like you didn’t write your books; I feel the same way about my music. Somehow I feel like the best musicians and artists already know that they are not the creators, just the medium channeling it to the rest of the waking world. Any thoughts?
February 12, 2012 at 6:58 pm #4664
wolfranch1	From a use-to-be artist. Ideas seemed to “download” if I unknowingly withdrew conscious effort and was in a state of happy flow….the zone carried me into altered spaces if you will. If anything large and negative was going on in my life, no artwork. I seem to be able to gauge the general alignment and happiness of my life by how much (if any) creative pieces I do on the weekends….now that you mention it.
February 12, 2012 at 11:38 pm #4683
Christina Ciani	wolfranch1 perfect choice of words for me: ideas seemed to download everything IS – tap in – draw it, summon it by your openness to it Key being : OPEN – nothing else coming down the pipe that is being poured through by you – there’s space, room for the flow. If you’re tuned to playing it as music, or writing it may be the channel (you know it ‘better’ not the best word, maybe but it’ll do) the flow is in and for everything- you can get high washing dishes if you want to – or at least I’ve noticed it’s possible myself ! The art is you – or we – US, really, flowing beauty, love and clear Isness of energy – that’s the wave for me when I feel that “leading edge” flow. This reply was modified 94 days ago by Christina Ciani.
February 13, 2012 at 12:32 am #4689
jennifer from Belgium	Oh Thought..;this is a really interesting question. I am not sure what came first…the spirituality or the art or was it because of the art that the spirutality came along???? I used to dance and practice a lot and the ‘zone’ would come easily just like that- no notice to my conscious self (like 30 yrs ago)…Now I find that when I get extrememly passionate to create something–maybe a better word ‘ressurect’ something (like redo the kitchen, strip some old closet, dye some old wool) the energy just flows through me like a divine expression of love (if I can use that word) or purpose that I just can’t hold back…..like in overdrive, adrenline…like some of you, I have been known to have limitless energy working right thru the night (if I didn’t remind myself of physical obligations called sleep). In this stage of my life, I feel this ‘power’ is very definitely my access to the spiritual door of my being and I can actually recognisze the ‘zone’ as a living entity. Does that makes sense?
February 13, 2012 at 1:19 am #4696
thought capacitor	Wow, thanks all of you for your input, it’s always interesting to see the similarities and differences of our creative processes. Jennifer, that is a good question you bring up, about art and spirituality. There’s an unusual book that found me at the used bookstore one day a few months back, called “The Theory of Laminated Spacetime”, by Barbara Dewey. She is/was a psychic healer for over 30yrs (which is probably why it’s out of print, because how could a psychic medium possibly have any valid theory about the universe, when scientists should be discovering the Unified Field Theory any minute now? ha, ha). Anyway, to put it simply, she said that spacetime or timespace, and everything in those dimensions (including this world here), are simply manifestations of the timeless creative medium, or creative consciousness, or One, or God, or Light, or whatever you want to call it. (Which might help explain why you feel the “zone” as a living entity, because it is the Oneness higher part of yourself that already exists in the timeless creative consciousness, that you are connecting with. …??) So, if you agree with her, I think this idea implies that everything everywhere and everytime, including art, has spiritual origins. And couldn’t everything in the universe be viewed as and called art anyway? Galaxies? Nature? Language? How about the Art of Dishwashing? But then again, what would Spirituality be without Art? It would not require creativity to express itself, because it wouldn’t be able to express itself, if Art didn’t exist. And then what would this timeless medium do with itself, I wonder? Manifest what? Because aren’t all its creations, by definition, works of art? Okay, brain overload, I’m hoping I got my ideas across okay, lol
February 13, 2012 at 1:32 am #4699
jennifer from Belgium	me too…
February 13, 2012 at 1:35 am #4700
jennifer from Belgium	yes the ideas came across as clear as a whistle…if I get it right then the question is how would creative consciousness (one, the light, etc..) come into appearance without art..right? And that everything around us is creative consciousness in fact and….that we recognize it as art in itself….right?????
February 13, 2012 at 1:37 am #4702
jennifer from Belgium	Hence…a living thought, idea, reaction, tree, person, dog, wool, etc…is all this expression…..non?????
February 13, 2012 at 1:37 am #4703
jennifer from Belgium	Where’s Drew?
February 13, 2012 at 1:44 am #4705
thought capacitor	exactly
February 13, 2012 at 1:46 am #4707
thought capacitor	Now I guess it boils down to the Ultimate Ultimate Question…where did this timeless spaceless creative medium come from, and isn’t it a work of Art too? Did it create itself? Don’t try to answer it or your head might explode. :O
February 13, 2012 at 1:55 am #4709
jennifer from Belgium
February 13, 2012 at 2:00 am #4712
jennifer from Belgium	I am in good form….I give it a stab….. I don’t think it can create itself…and my head is still here! This reply was modified 94 days ago by jennifer from Belgium.
February 13, 2012 at 2:08 am #4716
thought capacitor	lol, then what created it?
February 13, 2012 at 2:58 am #4720
jennifer from Belgium	I don’t know…..great mystery….something for someone to know and for me to find out…..